Harry Partch - BBC Documentary - Part 1 of 6



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Part 1 of a documentary about the composer Harry Partch who invented his own compositional method using a 43-tone scale and many instruments that he built by hand.


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Also, microtonality ... ( 7 months ago by revoltz7)
Also, microtonality is often used in film scores to create an effect, and personally I can't see what other uses microtonality has other than being used as an effect. Listen to this piece : threnody for the victims of hiroshima. It doesn't conform to the 12 semi-tone system, but its really just one collection of big musical effects. And if everyone believed that musical training was actually disadvantageous, then nobody would have written anything of signifigant musical merit ever.
you're right ... ( 7 months ago by tarhun)
you're right microtonality is used in more experimental ambient stuff by western musicians just as a "weird" sounding effect, which is a shame. I suggest you listen instead to some Balinese or Javan Gamelan music; it is microtonal from a western point of view but is a fully fledged functioning art form; not just used as an "effect".
I've heard some ... ( 7 months ago by revoltz7)
I've heard some Gamelan before, but I was taught (probably wrongly) that the gamelan instruments were tuned slightly out of tune purposefully, in order to produce an effect. I wasn't sure if the scales themselves were microtonal by Western standards, is that the case?
Gamelan tuning is ... ( 7 months ago by tarhun)
Gamelan tuning is very complex and I don't know all the details myself; but as I understand it there are basically two main scales, Pelog and Slendro. Pelog is a 5 note to the octave scale similar, but not identical to, 5 tone equal temperament. Slendro is a 7 tone scale that is roughly a subset of 9 tone equal temperament, although most gamelans only ever use 5 out of the 7 slendro tones (which 5 depend on the specific type of gamelan, it's roughly similar to the western concept of modes).
The specific ... ( 7 months ago by tarhun)
The specific intervals used for tuning vary from gamelan to gamelan but within a gamelan the instruments are usually all tuned to the same "version" of the scales. The exception is in some Balinese gamelans where instruments are purposefully tuned using slightly different versions of the scales to produce a distinctive inteference beat. This is presumably what you are referring to by saying they are purposefully "out of tune", however this is by no means the norm for all gamelans.
(whoops, got ... ( 7 months ago by tarhun)
(whoops, got Slendro and Pelog the wrong way round; Pelog is the 7 tone one, Slendro is the 5 tone one. Told you I didn't quite understand it ;) )
i agree with tarhun ... ( 5 months ago by halfmonk)
i agree with tarhun. microtonal music exists almost everywhere except in euro-centric "classical" harmony. as a matter of fact, it did exist at one time in the west. listen to any music made in just intonation which is what european music was before the conventions of 12 tones. just intonation is microtonal. it is not merely an "effect." it IS music before the editing of the temperate scale which was a dumbed down version to edit out the "wrong" notes. no wrong notes, only closed minds.
unordered chaotic ... ( 5 months ago by halfmonk)
unordered chaotic noise? wow, what an arrogant load of shite. first, your assumption is that there's something wrong with disorder, choas and noise. welcome to the real world, heinrich. in case, you don't understand that reference, there was certain group of germans who also disliked chaos and valued order above all else. i can only assume based on that statement that you have an extremely boring mainstream collection of musical pablum. remind me to not ask what's in rotation on your turntable.
I'm sorry. I guess ... ( 5 months ago by crazygolfer333)
I'm sorry. I guess I have been conditioned over the years but I don't like this music at all. If you look at other separate cultures that aren't influenced by western culture, they still have musical pitch that is appealing to our brains. We, as humans, have certain tones that are appealing and aren't appealing. Harry Partch's sounds aren't received well in the human brain.
There's no such ... ( 5 months ago by radurak)
There's no such thing as a appealing sound as such. Music is about organisation of pitches. The tones are the elements that are organised. There are 24 tone scales as far as i know and in this case, it's an even finer scale. Just like eastern quarter tones sound weird to the western ear, this may sound weird to yours. Open mindedness is the key here, because what seperates is a difference in pitch differentiation. I for one find this extremely interesting and i would compose in this scale.
what are his words ... ( 5 months ago by robertronics)
what are his words in the beginning? after the part of: "when I was pretty young I
´ve been going outside ever since I went outside......country" something like that I´m trying to translate this into spanish, so help me out please!
in the big ranch ... ( 4 months ago by oberryconnection)
in the big ranch country of Arizona
THANK YOU!!!!!!! it ... ( 4 months ago by robertronics)
THANK YOU!!!!!!! it
´s very unusual to see someone helping here in youtube, thanks a lot mate. I have a few more doubts, sorry (:P) In minute 1:15: "from working outside the contraints of the mainstream Harry Partch ......? flied on it what´s that word? and another one....in 1:50 "but I when 14 I began to write
music and conceive dramatic ??????" what does Harry say there?
"Music is about ... ( 4 months ago by robertronics)
"Music is about organisation of pitches" not only pitches not all music
Minute 1:15: "... ... ( 4 months ago by Dracopol)
Minute 1:15: "...Harry Partch positively thrived on it."
Minute 1:50: "...and conceive of dramatic (situations?)..."
Array ( 4 months ago by robertronics)
hmmm I don
´t think the words were "positively" but thx anways!!!! come on people!!! help me out please!
It definitely is ' ... ( 4 months ago by mrbraund)
It definitely is 'positively thrived', and conceive of dramatic situations is spot on too.
what is the word in ... ( 3 months ago by robertronics)
what is the word in minute 3:50? "...but he quickly became desillusioned with the whole ????? with the concert music..." what is that word?
"...but he quickly ... ( 3 months ago by ShockTheseTrees)
"...but he quickly became disillusioned with the whole ethos of the concert music..."
OMG! I know Philip ... ( 3 months ago by SweetSweetWaldo)
OMG! I know Philip Blackburn. Well, I know who he is and he knows who I am...
he looks like a ... ( 3 months ago by 6stringplaya77)
he looks like a crazy old kook...but i guess sometimes geniuses do...
what does he say in ... ( 2 months ago by robertronics)
what does he say in minute 1:52? "(1:52)and I said in their eye I will not be ???????? by anyone, I
´m going to be completely free"
"(1:52)and I said ... ( 2 months ago by ShockTheseTrees)
"(1:52)and I said right then and there 'I will not be straitjacketed by anyone, I
´m going to be completely free.'"
Finally i found ... ( 1 week ago by JesustheLizard)
Finally i found some one who i can identify with




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