'Authority' paranoia over photography in London



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An interesting short film about the legality of taking photographs on the streets in the UK. There's a nice interaction between the photographer and a couple of Police Community Support Officers in Central London.
For those who are unfimilar with CSO's, these are not Police Officers, though they are uniformed personnel working with the police in England and Wales. Their function it seems is: '...to provide a visible and reassuring presence on the streets and tackling the menace of anti-social behaviour.'
You can draw your own conclusions on that! NB The bit about having to ask for permission before taking photographs in Railway Stations is somewhat misleading as you don't have to have prior permission - not at the moment anyway Link to a letter written by Home Office Minister Tony McNaulty confirm
ing that there are no legal restrictions on taking photographs in public places: http://www.flickr.com/photos/asisawit/2473437441/ Here's a link to a recent Guardian article about terrorist not bothering to photograph their 'targets'. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/jun/05/news.terrorism


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It's interesting to ... ( 4 months ago by storinge)
It's interesting to note that the Community Support Officer goes wading in without actually knowing what the law is. This is why it's better to have more 'real' police officers, rather than poorly trained Support Officers. It's also interesting to note that the CSO demands to see some ID. This shows why compulsory ID cards are not a good idea.
Conditioned, no. ... ( 4 months ago by infrared567)
Conditioned, no. You said it yourself it has solved a few high profile cases, so that means without those camrers the cases would never have been solved. You talk alot of shit
You cannot take ... ( 4 months ago by snipboy)
You cannot take photographs or motion picture in new york city without permission. This is law.
What if someone ... ( 4 months ago by kalorius)
What if someone takes a photo of you without your permission?
A very good film. ... ( 4 months ago by IamMilk)
A very good film. Thanks for making it!
Hi snipboy, Do you ... ( 4 months ago by urbanimage)
Hi snipboy, Do you have a reference or link to this legislation that I can look at? Thanks, Peter
Hi storinge, I ... ( 4 months ago by urbanimage)
Hi storinge, I totally agree with you especially your point about ID cards. If they are introduce you can see that every jumped up jobs worth will demand to see one.
Hi kalorius, In ... ( 4 months ago by urbanimage)
Hi kalorius, In the UK you have no general right to privacy and taking a photograph of someone in a public place would not normally be considered an invasion of privacy. However if the picture was used commercially, for example in an advertisement, without the photographer getting a model release, then the person could bring a civil legal action against the photographer.
Hi snipboy, There ... ( 4 months ago by urbanimage)
Hi snipboy, There is a recently introduced restriction on the use of tripods in NYC, though this seems to be aimed more at film crews or commercial photo shots not individual photographers. Google for "New York City Tripod Permit" and you'll find the legislation - that's all I can find.
To all of you who ... ( 4 months ago by 40chim)
To all of you who voted Labour in 1997 and 2001(?), well done. I hope that you are proud of yourselves.
We now live in a police state. A state were the police pick on those who would otherwise be law abiding citizens, whilst ignoring the sort of ferral scum who cause 99% of the crime, just because the otherwise law abiding citizens are easier pickings. And the police wonder why they have so little
support of the good people in this country. FFS, this is just another form of communism.
So you think that ... ( 4 months ago by surfdigby)
So you think that CSOs (who aren't police) should continue to stop people who are doing no wrong, just as a visual deterent for terrorists?
I don't blame i ... ( 4 months ago by glaxev)
I don't blame i would get pissed off if i was being filmed by someone who was going to put on youtube, and loads of cunts were going to leave abusive messages.
Array ( 4 months ago by GuiaGP)
"I don't blame"
You don't blame? That's nice. Or: "I don't blame i" You don't blame you? What? The thing is, if you're unable to appreciate the extent of these issues and why they're important, you're making it that much easier for the rest of us to find ourselves without the basic rights and freedoms of man.
Your apathy, your ignorance, is as much a threat to society as those that would exploit it because apathy and ignorance are all too easy to exploit.
you are right it is ... ( 4 months ago by glaxev)
you are right it is a deep issue, i try to ignore it though, because ever since a young age i have had family members constantly predicting the dark gloomy future where we will be living in a 1984" society, of course this really gave me no motivation to achieve anything in my life full knowing that i either have to become a "freedom" fighter and constantly harass people what the truth is or just become another drone.
This apparent ... ( 4 months ago by elganthomas)
This apparent officer is a cunt, hes not even british! He should fuck off to where he came from, now.
The two guys in the ... ( 4 months ago by peoples2008)
The two guys in the film were Community Support Officers not police officers, and it looks as though the power has gone to their heads a bit
Keep it up ... ( 4 months ago by 99lex99)
Keep it up boys.Those officers were idiots. x
what a tosser, that ... ( 4 months ago by nelzi80)
what a tosser, that pcso was very aggressive and has no people skills what so ever. I'd like to see him try that up here in liverpool, he'd have got his face smashed in.....haha.
hahahaa are you ... ( 4 months ago by 11nightfox11)
hahahaa are you serious
what idiots
Man, SUCKS to be ... ( 4 months ago by Hostile)
Man, SUCKS to be you.
Savour the taste of ... ( 4 months ago by Hostile)
Savour the taste of the big dick of the law, citizen.
But its not much of ... ( 4 months ago by urbanimage)
But its not much of a success rate considering the billions spent on the CCTV systems which could be spent far more effectively.
Haven't we people ... ( 4 months ago by ase010)
Haven't we people been warned? Like George Orwell and Aldous Huxley did? What path, what way are we going now?
I'm not a ... ( 4 months ago by urbanimage)
I'm not a criminologist but I'd have thought better rehabilitation of offenders might be a good place to start. If you look at the systems in Denmark and Sweden that's where they put a lot of effort. Most of the people we send to prison reoffend most of the people they send don't.




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